Ep 16: Susan Heichert: CIO Builds Her Career on Joy

We’re honored to chat with Senior Vice President, and CIO of Allina Health, Susan Heichert, in this episode. Susan first started in the health IT world by entering nursing school. She practiced nursing for several years, and suggests it as a great route towards health leadership positions.

Discovering an interest in her first employer’s nursing union, Susan went back to school for her master’s degree in industrial relations. This taught her finance, accounting, and coupled with learning computer languages in undergrad, she discovered her affinity for technology. She remembers buying an Apple II computer when they first came out and wondered how it could help the healthcare world.

In the 1980’s, her hospital was looking for someone to help install clinical applications. She thought she’d try it as an “experiment” but it was one important step that led her down the path to becoming a Chief Information Officer. She originally wanted a job negotiating for unions; and she expertly employs those negotiation skills now.

“I think that’s one of the lessons of your life journey. You pick up random skills and never know where they might lead you,” she comments.

Susan accepted the technology job, inventing her own role as an Informational Systems Nurse Coordinator. After moving to Iowa, she fell into another role with a startup technology vendor. She was an early employee who helped the startup develop clinical information systems products with early artificial intelligence. She learned sales, product development, and more aspects of the technology world.

“Those were great experiences,” she says. “You don’t know what you don’t know!”

Her husband’s job called for more geographic moves, and Susan took each of those as opportunities to try new positions wherever she went. She missed implementing technology, so she took on a role at St. John’s Hospital in Grosse Pointe, Michigan. Then, moving back to Minneapolis, she migrated into a managerial role at a children’s hospital, where she installed CERNER solutions. She remembers many people telling her not to go down the route, but, to her, it looked like fun! Susan often asks herself if a new position looks fun before diving in.

Subsequently, Susan and her husband moved to China, and she did not work for two years but traveled and learned the culture.

Then, her husband's work called them back to Minneapolis where Susan joined Allina as manager of hospital applications. In 2008, she became the CIO of the largest health system in the twin cities with 13 hospitals, and many pharmacies and clinics in the region. Allina’s mission is to serve communities and partner with patients. They want to enable their caregivers and their patients to collaborate in their healthcare together.

“It’s extremely mission-driven and it’s a mission I align with closely,” she says.” If you don’t have good information you can’t be a good partner.”

Susan manages over 550 people in Allina’s information services department, including medical records, and clinical engineering (often known as biomed) services.

The three characteristics of Susan’s character that strengthen her team leadership are: her background growing up in healthcare, adaptability, and optimism. She does say it’s hard to make change health IT, but it can happen.

Does being a women influence her career? Susan says that nursing is a female-dominated career, so she maybe didn’t have challenges breaking a “glass ceiling” in a world of women. She sees it as a positive circumstance, helping her to understand more points of view, practicing empathy and listening — , characteristics women often have.

Getting your first management or leadership role can be difficult, Susan warns.

Her top pieces of advice for women leaders are:

● Put yourself forward and try leadership positions. If it looks fun, just do it.

● It’s all about taking opportunities to learn. Project yourself into that position. Think about how you can start to manage / lead.

Listeners can email susan.heichert@allina.com, if they’d like to talk with her any time.

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Ep 15: Judy Murphy: Attitude Over Aptitude and her Journey to IBM Chief Nursing Officer

In this episode, we had the honor to chat with Judy Murphy, Chief Nursing Officer for IBM. Judy’s background is in nursing but she shares with us her journey from that career to information technology, and finally to leading IBM’s initiatives in healthcare innovation.

Judy started off in nursing. Computers first moved into nursing stations for simple things such as billing, communications, etc. But Judy started to learn what was and wasn’t happening on the technology development side, and some of it wasn’t always what was needed for nurses. 

“We were doing homegrown development of these applications,” she said. “We rolled things out and learned along the way. But that’s where I started getting interested in the power of what we could do.”

These were mainframe green screens. There was no simple windows interface at the time. How did she make the leap from the hospital world to IBM, one of the “grandfathers” of the computing world?  There was a lot of hospital consolidation during the 80’s and 90’s, and Aurora Healthcare was born. The hospital’s IT Department started growing, though at that time it wasn’t called IT just yet.  Judy joined as a liaison advocating for what technology could do for the clinical side, growing from Staff Analyst to Vice President over 25 years at Aurora Healthcare. 

“It was a pioneering time,” she says, describing the new role she took. There wasn’t much certification or training support, but there was a new and growing industry. One of the most important things she did was to follow the national conversation. She watched organizations like HIMMS to track what could be done with computers and healthcare, and Judy jumped in to engage in the industry. This was instrumental for her career as she grew in IT.

Judy then was put on a federal advisory committee that spoke up for the meaningful use program, part of the American Recovery Reinvestment Act. She served for three years in the federal government as the Deputy National Coordinator for the program, then migrated to the Chief Nursing Officer for the federal government (part of the Office of the National Coordinator of IT). It was a really rewarding role for her. But Judy noticed the money was shifting to support other areas. 

New emerging technologies started to intrigue Judy, and she felt called to do something bigger.  IBM recruited her and Judy was extremely excited about what the computer giant could do for healthcare. 

The biggest challenge Judy says for the growth of IBM’s healthcare practice is that the company is still known for their hardware. The computerization of the industry is becoming commonplace, but the industry needs expertise to learn how it can be used. 

IBM is delving into the following two areas: 

● Mobile applications for both patients managing health and healthcare, and enabling the workforce (the nurse). She stresses, in particular,  applications that facilitate workflow efficiency in the hospital and homecare

● Analytics and understanding data and the quality of services provided Judy believes that career success can be attributed to attitude even more than basic aptitude. 

When Judy’s hiring, she’s always looking at a person’s excitement for their work, versus what they know. Judy also values surrounding herself with a team for whom she can foster growth, as part of her own growth. Lastly, she says helping to really pay attention and engage in volunteer work, boards, committees, and other types of activities help to drive her forward. 

In discussing challenges she has faced, Judy observes that throughout her career, IT has been dominated by men. She had to work to demonstrate credibility, because of her gender and her nursing background. 

“That’s very different today. Now, industry expertise is valuable in IT,” she said. “I even created two sets of cards, one listing RN and one without.” 

The top three leadership lessons Judy has for others are: 

● Don’t feel constrained. We’re often our own worst enemies by not speaking up.
● Make sure you position other people to lead with you. Mentor and get together with them, and guarantee their success. 
● Readjust your attitudes and always be humble. 

She leaves us with one last piece of advice: to think about your organization and industry, not just your job. It helps to round out any leader in IT to think about a bigger picture. 

This interview took place at HIMSS 2015. Learn more about HIMMS, and IBM here.

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Ep 14: Kim Snipes: Balancing Many Hats

Diva Tech Talk recently had the pleasure of chatting with Kimberly Snipes, Vice President of Consumer Products and Operations Technology for Capital One Financial Corporation. Kim is the technology executive for the Core Deposit and Deposit Operations technology platforms for Capital One’s Retail and Direct Bank. Her team is responsible for all of the fraud, compliance, item processing, reporting and core processing platforms.  In her role, she manages approximately 700 colleagues across 5 locations. Kim is also on the advisory board of Women Who Code, a global non-profit 501(c) 3 organization, inspiring women to excel in careers in technology. 

“Wearing many hats” is how Kim describes her early and entrepreneurial career.  After receiving her undergraduate degree in Computer Business at Furman University (“I was one of only 3 women in the program!”), she immediately moved into a technology consulting business, founded by her father.  “It was really energizing” to Kim, since she had the chance to undertake many roles from technical training to production training to telephone support to quality. She says “I quickly saw that having these different perspectives gave me an appreciation for what it takes to innovate, come up with a product, develop it, and actually deploy and sustain it.” 

She credits both her parents for her success, saying “My Mom also always made my sister and I feel that nothing is impossible.”

Moving into a larger corporation, Kim also went back to school in the evening to get an MBA, at the University of North Carolina in Charlotte. Her belief is that being “a deep technologist who can actually speak to a business problem is ten-fold more valuable” to any industry.  In developing her career, Kim says “I was open to leading any type of technology team.”  She characterizes herself as both valuing deep competence in a role, and staying open to moving forward. “If I get too comfortable in a role, my mantra is ‘it’s time to change’.”

Speaking about her current leadership role at Capital One, Kim focuses on “hiring great people who can advance the technology strategy,” setting a vision, and inspiring her widely-dispersed team. “Motivate the team you have to want to come to work every day, to want to embrace the strategy, to push it forward,” she says.  To that end she tries to meet, frequently, with everyone on her team either in person or using the newest video-to-video technology to engage in discussions.

Now the recent mother of a 1 year old girl, Kim has been seeking additional balance in her life.  “Before I had my little girl, I was very career-focused,” she says. “The minute I released myself from trying to be who I was before I was a mom, my life got so much better. I’ve gotten comfortable in my own skin now.  I still work very hard, but at the same time, my child sees me every night, if possible.”   As women, Kim truly believes that “our biggest challenge is ourselves” when achieving balance.  “We have to give ourselves a break.”

A key piece of career trajectory advice that Kim shares with other women is that people need to know who you are. “Show what you can do in a very genuine and authentic way,” she counsels. “You also need to engage in other activities, or special projects” as part of your personal “brand-building.”  

Along those lines, Kim got involved first with the internal Capital One “Women In Tech” initiative and then Capital One became a founding sponsor of the international Women Who Code.  Kim became part of their advisory board, when she returned from her maternity leave.  “We wanted to find a great partner, who would be championing the cause” of gender disparity in the technology field, she says. “You can reinvent yourself with technology,” Kim states. “We wanted an organization who felt the same way we did…bringing women in, at any stage of their careers, but also supporting them, and championing them through promotion of their careers. Women Who Code is that.”  She is looking forward to her continuous participation with that nonprofit.  “Going forward, we’re really going to ‘amp it up’ next year,” Kim says.  To that end, she is looking for ways “where we really can engage in a very meaningful way,” to promote and support women in technology.

“Women need to support women more than we do,” Kim says. “What a powerful thing if we were really supporting each other, and paying it forward.” Her advice is “Make time to support people, either internally in your company or externally.”

“You learn how to be resilient,” in the course of your career, according to Kim, who advocates for learning to adjust to change. “You’re never going to have that perfect job in every situation,” she says. “That’s when having a support system will get your through hard times.  Never forget what gets you up in the morning, drives you every day to be here.  Don’t give up on the field just because one environment may not have been the best environment.”

Capital One can be viewed here: www.capitalone.com

Women Who Code can be reached here: https://www.womenwhocode.com/

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Ep 13: Can Women Lean Out? Three Divas Share from Grace Hopper 2015

In October, 2015, Nicole Johnson Scheffler, one Diva Tech Talk’s co-founders, attended The Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing, organized in Houston, by The Anita Borg Institute.

Attended by over 12,000, the conference connected, inspired and guided women in computing and attracted many sponsoring organizations that view technology innovation as a strategic imperative. This Diva Tech Talk podcast highlights three diverse women who represent facets of that greater community.

The first is Anita Garcia, a junior at California State University in Monterey Bay, enrolled in the cohort-based “CS in 3” a three year accelerated computer science degree program.  A lucky recipient of one of the Grace Hopper Celebration scholarships, conference “VIP” Anita found the event both exhilarating and “a bit overwhelming.” Her principal reason for attending was to obtain interviews for upcoming internships to complement her budding career.

Anita began her technology odyssey at the early age of 12, developing a fascination with HTML and Websites.  Her interest sprouted further as she researched the burgeoning high demand for women in the field. “I quickly realized that there is a huge need for somebody like me,” she says, “to have this specific skill set.” Anita is excited about “the impact I can have in this domain.  I am able to work in any field with this kind of base as my undergraduate experience.”   Getting no semesters off from immersion in all facets of computer science, Anita describes herself and her colleagues as “busy bees.”  She has been involved in a number of fascinating research projects, one of which is the development of an Android-based mobile application to detect diseases transmitted on apples.  In the field of agricultural technology, Anita is additionally working with a Salinas Valley startup called Heavy Connect on a project to “eliminate unnecessary headaches and help the farmer save time and money.”  Anita is also the Co-Founder and President of student-led Her Script, with a mission to help women with technical and professional aspirations.  The group, (which she describes as “partially an ambitious study group,” as well as a community outreach organization) fields monthly classes in HTML and Android development using MIT’s App Inventor for people as young as 8 years old ranging to college age.  “It’s amazing to see the need for this kind of outreach in our community,” Anita says.  On her future career plans, she comments “One of the things I love about computer science is that I can branch out into any industry.”  Anita also advises our audience: “Don’t be afraid to try something new!”

Our second interview was with uber-entrepreneur Elissa Shevinsky, currently Co-Founder and CEO of JeKuDo Privacy Company, a startup building high security group collaboration tools, which are easy to use, for enterprises and activists.  “The (current) tools available, people aren’t using them,” she says. “We are making enterprise tools that feel like consumer tools.”  In the security field, Elissa prides herself on her ability to explain security issues in layperson’s terms.   She also believes that current security policies are almost unenforceable. “You either have security as part of your company’s culture or you don’t,” Elissa says.  “Breaches can put you out of business! And the ‘insider threat’ is also something you have to think about.”

Talking about her own career evolution, Elissa says “I have always loved being on a team, and making things.  That has driven me more than anything.” The secret to Elissa’s success she says is that she “failed up!  I stuck with it.”  She advises every woman to “stay in the game, and keep learning.”   Elissa credits startups with helping her to “level up” up her skill set and her portfolio to get to where she wanted to go. Elissa’s greatest current learning experience is the “day-to-day hard stuff of running a company. It’s not for everyone but it’s very rewarding. If you want to lead, and you have a vision, there is nothing else like it.”  As an entrepreneur she appreciates the opportunity to recruit and foster her team and create her company’s culture. “You decide what you’re comfortable with.”

“Ideally, I would like to encourage people to do their own thing,” Elissa says. “We should be able to be ourselves in the industry. Companies are actively trying to recruit women, and women of color.  That puts us in a different position.  We can begin standing up and saying ‘this is what we want to be comfortable at work’.  It’s time that men began accommodating women, not just women accommodating men.”  

“I feel comfortable saying the women are often very good communicators,” Elissa comments. “Women also contribute incredibly valuable things to organizations which have not been properly compensated. Women’s roles like community moderation really deserve a lot more respect and reward.” Her key advice for women “is to take a step back and reflect; and say ‘who am I and what do I want’. Then figure out how you go after it.”  

A published author, Elissa recently released Lean Out, a self-described “dark” book focused on the struggle for gender equality in technology and entrepreneurship, which features 25 different stories from 19 different contributors. “It’s a collection of stories that is really unedited. I am open to a lot of different ideas and connecting to a lot of different people. I don’t have to agree with you. There’s a story in there for almost everyone.”

Get your copy of her book here: http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/lean-out/

The final interview was with Jessica Legner, a web developer with ESPN.  Pregnant and married at age 18, Jessica was a “lost” college dropout, who got her first job on a manufacturing line producing car parts.  After 18 months, she realized that her aptitudes were being wasted, and decided to go back to community college, where she parlayed her interest in website design into an eventual focus in computer science at Michigan-based Saginaw Valley State University. Internships at various companies, focusing on Website support and development, fueled her interest and built her skills in PHP, CSS, and HTML.  Then her alma mater offered her a full-time job, after graduation, working on a learning management system for the university, where she built her skills in Java, PHP and JavaScript.  

Jessica credits an interest in sports wagering (beginning with “Fantasy Football”) as feeding her competitive nature, sparking her talent for data and leading her to her current role. “I was really interested in what ESPN was doing on their Website,” Jessica says.”In 2006, the Web looked nothing like it does now!  They were ‘ahead of the game’ and it was really cool.  That was where my inspiration started.”  After a decision to leave SVSU, and some lengthy interviewing, Jessica landed her “dream job” as a Website and mobile Web application developer at ESPN, and has never looked back.  “We are improving things at ESPN, every day,” she says. “And here I am, at Grace Hopper, 8 months later, meeting wonderful women and talking to you.”

Jessica’s most important advice to other women is “Notice and realize you are capable of anything.  Follow your dreams; as my grandmother told me, you can do anything you want! You just have to want it, and work hard enough.”

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Ep 12: Tracy-Ann Palmer: Making An Impact In StartUps, Fortune 500’s, and Nonprofits

Diva Tech Talk recently met with the vibrant Tracy-Ann Palmer, a female IT leader and South African expatriate, with a fascinating and multi-faceted career, from entrepreneurship to Fortune 500 companies to community/nonprofit organizations. 

Having started out in the entertainment industry in her native country, one of Tracy-Ann’s first watershed roles, after migrating to the United States, was as a sales executive/manager at a worldwide experiential marketing firm:  Marcus Evans, who concentrates on organizing and implementing events for the “C suite.”  There she got her first taste of what makes global and regional businesses “tick” and learned amazing lessons. “Marcus Evans taught me that anything is possible, nothing is impossible,” she says.  The culture bred entrepreneurship.  “80% of my former colleagues, there, have gone on to start and own their own businesses!” It was also at Marcus Evans, and later at a company she founded (Arzika LLC) that Tracy-Ann got her first deep exposure to the technology industry. “At both Marcus Evans and Arzika, we were always participating in technology from the sidelines,” she explains.  “We tracked what was hot and happening and impacting the way companies and executives functioned and were enabled.”

From being the founder of Arzika, Tracy-Ann then moved to a dynamic IT company, well known for a pioneer in “cloud-based” computing applications on a large scale:  Salesforce.com.  “I started out in their Partner Marketing organization,” she explains. “We steered and established the App. Exchange and built their Partner Program.”    While successfully doing that, her community work came to the attention of a colleague who had moved over to the philanthropic Salesforce.com Foundation.  Logically, she married her interest in philanthropy to a new challenge and Tracy-Ann also migrated to the Foundation to head up their Alliances Program. 

“Much of my career evolution has come from taking advantages of opportunities,” she shares.  So when “second-stage” Michigan-based startup BillHighway called, she accepted a leadership role as their Chief Growth Officer, regretfully moving from the Salesforce.com Foundation to do so.  

“BillHighway was a Salesforce.com partner,” Tracy-Ann says. “And I learned so much there.   First of all, I learned how to break ground in new markets, where you have no brand recognition.  I also got the chance to participate in venture capital discussions, for the first time. And, I learned the crucial importance of ‘company culture’ to success.”

From BillHighway, Tracy-Ann has now moved to one of the technology leaders in the communications space:  Cisco.  Why has she done that?  “They offered me a ‘change agent’ role, and I love challenges,” she laughs. “Passion and courage have allowed me to take on change agent roles. I am prepared to take the risks.” Her current role is a transformational one, helping her Cisco team penetrate the 155 Midwestern companies they are targeting; and changing the image/mindset of decision-makers so that they see Cisco as not simply a communications hardware company but a leader in the Internet-driven software sector, as well.

In all of these roles, Tracy-Ann has built and led teams, and thinks one of her key strengths is that “I truly care about the companies for whom I work, and people.  My number one priority is to impact people’s lives, and make them better at who they are, and what they do.”

That same philosophy has driven her natural affinity for philanthropic work, too.  “I have started to think about my personal legacy,” she says.  Prior to moving to the Midwest, Tracy-Ann lived in Connecticut and was involved in the Self-Esteemed Women’s Foundation.  In Michigan, she became deeply enmeshed in the work of The Michigan Council of Women in Technology Foundation.  “The people in philanthropy are so self-sacrificing,” she exclaims. “They are the most passionate and hard-working people I have ever met.”

Because of that, in the last several years, she co-founded another worthwhile regional nonprofit of which she is proud. We Build Character was created to support people who Tracy-Ann thinks have been inadvertently neglected —those in mid-career.  “The middle tier of our workforce is often forgotten,” she says. “Yet if you think about how many people are leaving the workforce and retiring, the next generation of leaders is coming from that middle tier!”  The We Build Character program has four facets.  “We set up a person with a senior executive mentor, with whom they meet monthly for coaching,” she explains.  “We also have monthly facilitators and speakers” who give advice and guidance to participants.  “We also work with people on professional network expansion, and elevating the relationships in their network. “  And finally, close to Tracy-Ann’s own heart, “any leader, no matter who you are, needs to have some kind of ‘pay-it-forward’ aspect to their career.”  So the fourth facet of the program helps participants join and benefit community impact organizations. 

We Build Character participants are a fairly diverse group.  Participants include “any individual who cares about where they are going, is interested in having a professional mentor, and who wants to focus on more professional, personal development,” Tracy-Ann explains.  “We have participants from all the major Michigan companies.”

Being a woman has not fazed Tracy-Ann in her own career evolution but she does believe that more women executives are needed. “Statistics show that companies with more women leaders have higher productivity and better return on investment,” she says.  Being a transplant to the U.S. is also a source of Tracy-Ann’s inspiration.  “I wake up every day and I feel that I am incredibly blessed and privileged to be in the U.S.  You can be whatever you want to be, here.”

What three main pieces of advice would Tracy-Ann give to other aspiring women leaders? 

1.     “Be bold.  Don’t give up on your dreams.”

2.     “Be authentic.  Be who you really, truly, are.

3.     And finally: “Don’t judge. Accept everyone and everything from the perspective of what you can learn from them, and from the circumstances you are in.  Know that everyone has something very special to give you.”

Cisco can be visited here: www.cisco.com

Also please visit We Build Character, Tracy-Ann Palmer’s profile, and The Michigan Council of Women in Technology.

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